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		<title>By: Andrew Johnston</title>
		<link>http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2009/wrangling-mimetypes#comment-1015</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to a big +1 on the grumbling, I want to thank you for all your efforts in maintaining this key file. 

I have regularly been pleasantly surprised that the new-ish types I have had occasion to care about have always been present as part of updated Apache distributions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to a big +1 on the grumbling, I want to thank you for all your efforts in maintaining this key file. </p>
<p>I have regularly been pleasantly surprised that the new-ish types I have had occasion to care about have always been present as part of updated Apache distributions.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Baker</title>
		<link>http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2009/wrangling-mimetypes#comment-1012</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 00:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do receive some registrations embedded within would-be RFCs.  I hope the IESG isn&#039;t forgetting to verify that all new registrations have been reviewed.  I&#039;ll look into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do receive some registrations embedded within would-be RFCs.  I hope the IESG isn&#8217;t forgetting to verify that all new registrations have been reviewed.  I&#8217;ll look into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy T. Fielding</title>
		<link>http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2009/wrangling-mimetypes#comment-1011</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy T. Fielding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

I think the most recent .xml ones were inside RFCs, so I suspect you didn&#039;t get a chance to review them. Of course, the problem isn&#039;t just .xml — the same occurs with .jar (OSGI bundles) and a few other generic extensions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>I think the most recent .xml ones were inside RFCs, so I suspect you didn&#8217;t get a chance to review them. Of course, the problem isn&#8217;t just .xml — the same occurs with .jar (OSGI bundles) and a few other generic extensions.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Baker</title>
		<link>http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2009/wrangling-mimetypes#comment-1010</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised about the .xml extensions.  That&#039;s probably the most common problem with XML registrations that I deal with as a reviewer on ietf-types, but I think I&#039;ve done a pretty good job (despite having to fight another reviewer on it!) keeping the xml extension out of registrations for at least the past 3/4 years.  If you remember any, or spot any more that are using it, please let me know.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised about the .xml extensions.  That&#8217;s probably the most common problem with XML registrations that I deal with as a reviewer on ietf-types, but I think I&#8217;ve done a pretty good job (despite having to fight another reviewer on it!) keeping the xml extension out of registrations for at least the past 3/4 years.  If you remember any, or spot any more that are using it, please let me know.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Tilkov</title>
		<link>http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2009/wrangling-mimetypes#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Tilkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be easier to &quot;just&quot; publish it somewhere else in a concerted community effort, making it publicly available and handing it over to IANA as soon as they see that it would actually make their life easier?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be easier to &#8220;just&#8221; publish it somewhere else in a concerted community effort, making it publicly available and handing it over to IANA as soon as they see that it would actually make their life easier?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hausenblas</title>
		<link>http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2009/wrangling-mimetypes#comment-1005</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hausenblas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Roy!

I couldn&#039;t have said it better. I recently ran into comparable troubles when executing an action [1] for the W3C Media Fragments group (though not as elegant solution as you have; I must admit I didn&#039;t even know they have an FTP version of it).

An absolute +1 for dret&#039;s feed proposal (Atom, yes please;) 

Once this is in place I volunteer to take care of an RDF/linked data version of it ;)

I&#039;d even go a step further, contemplating on bugging the TAG with it. If enough people and institutions shout out, it might (maybe) motivate IANA to react.

Any other proposals to &#039;motivate&#039; them?

Cheers,
Michael

[1] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/MediaTypeReview</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Roy!</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t have said it better. I recently ran into comparable troubles when executing an action [1] for the W3C Media Fragments group (though not as elegant solution as you have; I must admit I didn&#8217;t even know they have an FTP version of it).</p>
<p>An absolute +1 for dret&#8217;s feed proposal (Atom, yes please;) </p>
<p>Once this is in place I volunteer to take care of an RDF/linked data version of it <img src='http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;d even go a step further, contemplating on bugging the TAG with it. If enough people and institutions shout out, it might (maybe) motivate IANA to react.</p>
<p>Any other proposals to &#8216;motivate&#8217; them?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Michael</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/MediaTypeReview" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/MediaTypeReview</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Habing</title>
		<link>http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2009/wrangling-mimetypes#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Habing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a timely post.  I just finished an HTML scraper for the IANA MIME indexes that generates an XML Schema file with a single simpleType that can be used in other XML Schema if you need an enumerated list of MIME types: http://gita.grainger.uiuc.edu/imt/

It would definitely be a lot easier if the IANA provided an XML-based registry of some sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a timely post.  I just finished an HTML scraper for the IANA MIME indexes that generates an XML Schema file with a single simpleType that can be used in other XML Schema if you need an enumerated list of MIME types: <a href="http://gita.grainger.uiuc.edu/imt/" rel="nofollow">http://gita.grainger.uiuc.edu/imt/</a></p>
<p>It would definitely be a lot easier if the IANA provided an XML-based registry of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: kl</title>
		<link>http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2009/wrangling-mimetypes#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>kl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great example how RDF would be very helpful and that it&#039;s doomed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great example how RDF would be very helpful and that it&#8217;s doomed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirkjan Ochtman</title>
		<link>http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2009/wrangling-mimetypes#comment-1002</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirkjan Ochtman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went looking how my distribution handles this (since it apparently doesn&#039;t use the mime.types provided by Apache, but has its own package), and found the following email message:

On Fri Aug 31 10:51:55 2007, someone wrote:
&gt; I have noticed that there doesn&#039;t seem to be any way to extract all
&gt; the current mimetypes and their extensions from the iana website.
&gt; This is particularly difficult for Linux distros in particular when
&gt; they want to update their mime.types file because they have to
&gt; manually sift through the iana website to see what has changed.  If
&gt; you provided a file that dynamically displayed all mime types and
&gt; their file extensions from your database, it would smooth over the
&gt; update process for many people.  If you currently already have such a
&gt; file, could you send me the link to it?

I&#039;m afraid we don&#039;t provide such a file. We are, however, currently
working on making the IANA-maintained registries available in XML
format.

Best regards,

Amanda Baber
IANA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went looking how my distribution handles this (since it apparently doesn&#8217;t use the mime.types provided by Apache, but has its own package), and found the following email message:</p>
<p>On Fri Aug 31 10:51:55 2007, someone wrote:<br />
&gt; I have noticed that there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any way to extract all<br />
&gt; the current mimetypes and their extensions from the iana website.<br />
&gt; This is particularly difficult for Linux distros in particular when<br />
&gt; they want to update their mime.types file because they have to<br />
&gt; manually sift through the iana website to see what has changed.  If<br />
&gt; you provided a file that dynamically displayed all mime types and<br />
&gt; their file extensions from your database, it would smooth over the<br />
&gt; update process for many people.  If you currently already have such a<br />
&gt; file, could you send me the link to it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid we don&#8217;t provide such a file. We are, however, currently<br />
working on making the IANA-maintained registries available in XML<br />
format.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Amanda Baber<br />
IANA</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Reschke</title>
		<link>http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2009/wrangling-mimetypes#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Reschke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that IANA is currently converting registries into XML, see http://www.iana.org/reports/2008/xml-registry-launch.html.

That the media types registry isn&#039;t converted yet probably is partly caused by the state it&#039;s in :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that IANA is currently converting registries into XML, see <a href="http://www.iana.org/reports/2008/xml-registry-launch.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.iana.org/reports/2008/xml-registry-launch.html</a>.</p>
<p>That the media types registry isn&#8217;t converted yet probably is partly caused by the state it&#8217;s in <img src='http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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